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Usenet Mac Digest     Sunday, January 31, 1988       Volume 4 : Issue 18

Today's Topics:
     Comments on Canvas requested
     Bug in 9(36)b4 Kermit
     Re: FrameMaker vs Fullwrite
     Re: international phonetics font (IPA)
     Re: MacWorld Expo Report 2 (longer)
     Re: Macintosh posters wanted! (Apple Collection)
     game review: Crystal Quest
     opinions wanted: Fool's Errand
     Re: MacUser compiler comparison
     Floppy Conversion to Amiga
     wanted: source of mini-din 8 connectors
     Re: Large external Hard Disks
     Screen Dumping to a LaserWriter
     Re: game review: Crystal Quest
     Re: Drawing Programs: Recommendations Wanted
     Pyro and Multifinder
     Re: Comments on Canvas requested
     Re: Tempo vs. Quickkey
     Re: Lasershare:  Help!!
     The ROM serial driver
     Expressionist vs. MathType

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From: [e-mail] (Leonard Hamey)
Subject: Comments on Canvas requested
Date: 29 Jan 88 19:16:45 GMT
Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI


Has anyone had any experience with Canvas? Is it good, not only for
art-work but also for technical diagrams? I note that it has macros. Do
these make it easy to set up graph axes and things like that?
--
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Leonard Hamey            Computer Science Dept.
[e-mail]            Carnegie Mellon University
<Substitute your favourite disclaimer here>


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From: [e-mail] (Chris Cooley)
Subject: Bug in 9(36)b4 Kermit
Date: 29 Jan 88 20:12:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas


Yes, I know that this version is a beta version, but since someone on
the net had said how virtually flawless it was, I'd post my finding
here.

It seems that no matter what I do, I can't get the Kermit to emulate
Even parity.  The IBM 3081 here at U. of Texas is very fussy and its
front-end converter (ASCII to to EBCDIC) requires EVEN and EVEN ONLY
(its caps).

I've tried everything, setting the parity in "Communications..."
outright, changing them, saving them to a Settings file and double
clicking on the settings file...

Does anyone know when the next update to this version will be?  The
support of the new keyboards is only one of my favorite features.

Thanks in advance!

                    --chris


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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Re: FrameMaker vs Fullwrite
Date: 29 Jan 88 19:35:33 GMT
Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd

>Does anyone know of a software called FrameMaker?

FrameMaker is a product on the Sun Workstation.

>I have heard rumor that it exists for the Mac, but
>have never seen any information on it.  How does it
>compare to Fullwrite?  I would appreciate any information
>anyone has on this application.

Rumor has it that a Macintosh version is in the works, but it isn't
announced nor, to my knowledge, has it been shown or demoed to anyone.

If it is like the Sun FrameMaker I'm not sure I'd compare it to
fullwrite -- it is more in the class of Ready, Set, Go!, PageMaker and
Interleaf as a layout/publishing system than simply a high-power Word
Processor.

chuq
--
Chuq Von Rospach            [e-mail]        Delphi: CHUQ

                       What do you mean 'You don't really want to hurt her?'
                                    I'm a Super-Villain! That's my Schtick!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: international phonetics font (IPA)
Date: 29 Jan 88 23:41:22 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

You can get one from

  Prof. Peter Ladefoged
  Dept. of Linguistics
  University of California
  Los Angeles, CA 90024

The font is supposed to work on the LaserWriter as well as ImageWriter
(though it hasn't for me yet for some reason).

   Michael Gasser
   ARPA:  [e-mail]
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   USMAIL:  UCLA AI Lab
            3531 Boelter Hall
            University of California
            Los Angeles, CA 90024
            [phone]


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From: [e-mail] (David Ackerman)
Subject: Re: MacWorld Expo Report 2 (longer)
Date: 30 Jan 88 01:19:54 GMT
Organization: California Department of Water Resources

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bill Petro - Program
Management Office) writes:
>
> The Good part was the eagerly expected Wingz booth sponsored by
> Innovative Software of Lenexa, Kansas.  It was rumored in MacWeek

I spoke with someone from Innovative yesterday, and she said that
Leonard Nimoy was actually *at* MacWorld Expo, probably Friday. He was
so impressed by the the response to WingZ that he wants to be their
official spokesman. They would be foolish to turn him down.

Maybe the next Star Trek movie will have a Mac II in the background
somewhere, running WingZ. :-)
--
David Ackerman
California Department of Water Resources     caldwr![e-mail]  (Internet)
"It's the water, and a lot more..."       ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!caldwr!ack  (UUCP)

         The opinions expressed above are mine, not those of the State
         of California or the California Department of Water Resources.


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From: [e-mail] (John O'Malley)
Subject: Re: Macintosh posters wanted! (Apple Collection)
Date: 30 Jan 88 04:32:22 GMT
Organization: Personal Computing Learning Resource Center, Purdue University

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Raymond Lau) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ted Johnson) writes:
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can get some nice Mac posters?
>Does The Apple Collection have what you want?  (don't have their address or
>number here....I'm sure someone else might)

The Apple Collection's address is

    6600 Silacci Way
    Gilroy, CA  95020

and the phone is [phone].  At least this is the info that's
printed on the return form that they included with my April 1987 order.
I haven't got my catalog with me, though... it's about 120 miles north
of here :-(

>Then again, last I heard...The Apple Collection was having trouble with back
>orders...  so, I don't know if it is wise to order from them...or even if
>they're still around!

Well, I found their number in a late 1984/early 1985 Macworld and placed
an order last April.  They're probably still around.  My order took
about four weeks, if I remember correctly.
--
John O'Malley      \  Personal Computing       \  Purdue University \ (317)
j.cc.purdue.edu!ajq \  Learning Resource Center \  Computing Center  \ 494-1787


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From: [e-mail] (Andrew S. Glassner)
Subject: game review: Crystal Quest
Date: 30 Jan 88 04:49:12 GMT

Today I received my copy of the new game Crystal Quest.  I give it 5 out
of 5.

The game is an interactive, 2d arcade-style hand-and-eye reaction time
shoot-em-up.  You're piloting a ship across the face of the Mac screen,
controlling its movement (direction, speed) with the mouse. Clicking the
mouse button fires a torpedo; pressing the space bar fires a smart bomb
(if you have one).  You begin in the center of the screen, surrounded by
an assortment of static objects: crystals to get, mines to avoid, and
bonus point flags to get (there might even be a smart bomb or two in
view if you're lucky).  You begin to cruise around the screen to get the
points and crystals.  When you have all of the crystals collected, a
hatchway opens at the  bottom of the screen.  You fly into the hatch to
collect bonus points for time and then advance to the next level.  At
certain scores you are awarded an extra ship.

Of course, there have to be bad guys.  And there are plenty of them.
There are two portals: one each on the left and right side of the
screen.  The baddies come out of these portals and onto the screen. Then
they begin to wreak havoc.  There are 12 different kinds of bad guys,
each with a unique image and personality.  Some are not as nasty as
others; you start seeing meaner bad guys as you advance levels. If any
bad guy touches you, you die.  The baddies on the first few levels
aren't too hard to outrun, and they're not continuously aggressive.  As
you progress, they get more determined to come after you.  Some also
have the ability to fire shots of their own, of different types: you
must also avoid their shots or lose a ship.

There are a few things that make this game really special.  First is the
quality of the play and the interaction.  The game is principally
entertaining: the bad guys have personality, your goals are clearly
defined, and your options are limited.  It's not a game you have to
slowly decipher: it's plain, simple, up-front brute reaction time and
observation.  But wonderfully done.  The mouse controls not the position
of your ship but its velocity.  Swish the mouse quickly to the right,
and your ship starts zipping to the right.  Swish left to bring the ship
to a halt.  The mechanics of this control are really fine; there seems
to be a very non-linear correlation between mouse speed and ship speed,
but I only say this because I've thought about it: it feels  completely
natural.

The graphics are very simple but well done.  Everything on the screen is
a simple, small, shape that is easily recognizable and differentiable
from everything else.

The game comes with over 300k of digitized sound support.  Every time
you shoot, or collect a crystal, or get a point flag, or bump into a
mine, or... well, every action in the game (by you or the bad guys) has
its own entertaining (and usually appropriate) sound.  There are some
nice surprises in the sound I don't want to give away.  But they're very
well done and completely integrated into the game.

Another special feature of the game is your control.  When the screen
begins to fill up with baddies and their shots at you, the Mac has
simply got to do more work than for a mostly empty screen.  The bad guys
begin to slow down a bit; so do their shots.  BUT, and this is most
important, your ship responds as always.  So the other guys get
sluggish, but the skills you build up by playing the game are not jarred
when it gets busy: your ship always responds the same way.  This
probably wasn't easy, but it was obviously a deliberate design decision.
 It was quite right.

Players of Crystal Raider (shareware, a year or so old) will easily
learn this game; it's an enhanced version.  Some of your favorite bad
guys from Crystal Raider make a re-appearance in Crystal Quest, in the
company of several new nasties.

I've probably played about 2 hours total (which is a lot for a
fast-paced arcade game).  I've made it to level 29, with a score of
1540350.  The box says that there are 40 different levels.  I don't know
what comes after 40, but it will probably be a long time before I see
it.  The upper twenties are HARD.  Luckily, you can gain back about one
life per level if you're quick (from the bonus points at the end), but
you start losing ships a lot faster than that in the upper levels!

I ordered from MacWarehouse, which is selling the game for $28 (I
couldn't find anyone else selling it in February's MacUser).  It's
marketed by Greene, Inc. of Monterey, CA.  The documentation needed to
play the game is on-line: brief but complete.  The box contains 1 800k
disk containing Crystal Quest, the sound file, a system folder, and a
"demo" version of the game you can give to your friends.  It contains
some of the bad guys  and ends after 5 levels.

I love this game.  The difficulty is well graded, there is tons of sound
and graphics, and the interaction is handled in a superb manner.  The
game is exciting, and I really enjoy driving my ship throughout the
screen, avoiding static land mines, moving bad guys, and the bad stuff
they emit (new mines, torpedoes, fancy bombs, etc.).

I give it a Perfect score: 5/5.

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--------------------- Andrew Glassner    UUCP:decvax!mcnc!unc!glassner
 ARPA:[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Andrew S. Glassner)
Subject: opinions wanted: Fool's Errand
Date: 30 Jan 88 04:51:04 GMT

Has anyone played the game "Fool's Errand" on the Mac? Is it any good?
About 4 months ago a friend mentioned the game to me with high marks,
but I've never seen it.  Is it shareware or buyware?  Is it fun?

-Andrew

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--------------------- Andrew Glassner    UUCP:decvax!mcnc!unc!glassner
 ARPA:[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Cohen)
Subject: Re: MacUser compiler comparison
Date: 29 Jan 88 15:20:09 GMT
Organization: Ashton Tate Development Center Glendale Cal.

Before I get into my comments on the following, it should be noted that
I frequently review compilers for a couple of competing publications
(MacWorld and Macintosh Today -- MacUser never bothered to respond to
any queries about Author/Reviewer guidelines {much less anything else I
asked}).

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Erazm J.
Behr) writes:
> Hi; I have a question to those who are familiar with both
> Turbo & LS Pascal compilers. In the latest MacUser I saw
> an article comparing various Mac compilers (not only Pascal).
> As an owner of TP I quickly looked at a table where points were
> assigned in several categories, and saw that TP scored pretty
> low in all, which is of course clear heresy :-) I know it's
> far from being perfect, but:
The first thing you should be aware of is that ratings such as those in
the table, lacking any examples of deficiencies, are purely subjective
as they don't specify what is required for the various ratings in these
categories. My personal favorite as "best" of the compilers is MPW, a
preference not all will share, because it suits _my_ needs best.

>   it got 3 or 4 out of 5 for "Toolbox access" and something like
> 3 for "standalone applic."; according to the manual *full* access
> to the toolbox is provided (and is easy, in my opinion) and
> creating standalone applications is a snap (only the dumb loader
> makes small ones big and big ones a little bigger :); what gives?
> What does LSC (perfect scores in all categories) have that TP
> doesn't in this regard?
The version of TP used for the article was 1.0 and it didn't support
anything from Volume V of Inside Mac, which should have dropped it to a
IV, no lower. Creating a standalone application is probably easier in
Turbo than in LSP for the following reasons:  1) You don't have to leave
the environment to edit your resource file   2) You can set the Creator
and your bundle bit with Turbo and cannot with LSP. The major thing
which is easier in LSP than any of the others is debugging, but even
that isn't enough to make me put up with their editor unless I am really
desparate (Very Personal and Subjective Opinion :=}).

>   on the other hand, the only category in which TP beat TML is
> "listing"; from a quick glance at the accomp. text I gathered this
> was about generating x-references etc. If TML's ability to do this
> is *worse* than TP's, then I feel *really* sorry for those poor
> guys who use TML (I mean, TP's listing is "pure, unadulterated" text
> of the program!).
They must not have seen any of the _Public Domain_ tools that Ken Butler
and I have provided, such as PasMat and PasRef for both TML and Turbo.
These tools are available on CompuServe and I submitted them to the
moderator of binaries here about 6 months ago (though I've never seen
them come past).  Come to think of it, I've never seen anything that I
submitted to a moderator come by on the net.  Both PasMat and PasRef are
standalone application equivalents of the MPW tools by the same names.
They are public domain because their original versions came into
existence on Univac 1100 Series mainframes in the late 70s and were
created by government contractors and employees on the public dime.  The
versions from Apple and from me for the Mac are significantly enhanced
deriv- ative works.  BTW, TML's listing is essentially identical to the
listing from Turbo (straight editor printout).  The only reason I can
see for LSP getting a good grade here is that it bold-faces reserved
words (personally, I would take points away for that, but that too is a
personal preference).

>   So, have the scores been assigned randomly, or did the editors
> use substances, or what ?              Eric

As stated above, if they had criteria for their grading, it was not
stated explicitly at any point.  I personally took the whole article as
a piece of fairly useless fluff.

In conclusion, I own each of the four compilers discussed, as well as
four C compilers for the Mac, three Modula-2 compilers, and two
assemblers.  I use all of them at least occasionally (with the exception
of TDI Modula-2, which bombs too frequently).  In general, I don't
believe that there is anything better than MPW for the professional
developer, though LSC is neck and neck with MPW C. Among the Pascals any
of TML, Turbo, or LSP could be right, depending on the way you like to
do things. I don't use LSP much anymore because it doesn't "feel right"
to me, doesn't work with MultiFinder and even the Mac II-compatible
version has some problems when you run in color.  The available Volume V
stuff is also wrong in many places. Turbo 1.1 is an excellent product
and has full Volume V access.  The two things which I would add to it
would be an integrated resource compiler and source level debugging. TML
2.5 is a solid product which is fully Mac II and MultiFinder compatible,
with full Volume V interfaces.  As a matter of fact, with MultiFinder
and enough memory (about 2.5 MB or more), it's a pretty good integrated
product. It's not as pretty as the others, but its linker is much better
and it has Object Pascal extensions (although this area is buggy).
--
Dennis Cohen
Ashton-Tate Glendale Development Center
dBASE Mac Development Team
--------------------------
Disclaimer:  Virtually everything above is, as stated, my personal opinion and
has no relation to any corporate position.


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From: [e-mail] (Micha Meier)
Subject: Floppy Conversion to Amiga
Date: 29 Jan 88 13:49:15 GMT
Organization: ECRC, Munich 81, West Germany

Is there a program for the Mac that is able to read and write floppies
in the Amiga format? I'd appreciate any pointers, including instructions
how to write it myself, if anybody knows. Thanks.

--Micha

uucp:mcvax!unido!ecrcvax!micha


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From: [e-mail] (Bud Greasley)
Subject: wanted: source of mini-din 8 connectors
Date: 28 Jan 88 21:55:24 GMT
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto


    Does anyone know of a supplier for the mini din 8 connectors
    for the Macintosh {SE|PLUS|II}.

    Thanks in advance.

    Bud Greasley
    Systems Admin.
    SoftQuad Inc.


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From: [e-mail] (Ken Wallich)
Subject: Re: Large external Hard Disks
Date: 29 Jan 88 18:14:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

I can most highly recommend CDC's Wren line of drives.  I have a 160MB
WrenIII hooked up to my MacII, and am pleased as punch with it.  It is
FAST (16.5ms average access time), and is capable of doing data
transfers faster than the II can receive (thus you get the maximum
throughput possible, with the current SCSI configuration), is reasonably
quiet, and is built like a proverbial rock.  I also have friends that
have had WRENs running on UNIX machines for a long time with no problems
whatsoever.

There is always a downside, and the problem is that only Jasmine (I
think)  sells the bigger CDC's, and the last third party review showed
them using  the WrenII, with a 28+ms access time.  This means you have
to buy the bare drive, put it in a cabinet you buy separately, and get a
public domain SCSI driver for it to use the big fast drives.  If your
not buying these  for your own use, support can be a big issue, as can
putting the drives  together (CDC will have the WREN V, a half hight
(read internal), 180MB  drive shipping in a month or so, but I wouldn't
hold my breath).  I paid just under $2000 for my hard disk, cabinet,
connectors, and lots of cable, however, which is a might cheaper per
megabyte than a lot of the higher density prepackaged disks.

Since the subject of "what is your favorite hard disk" seems to be a
religious topic around here, I'm sure you get lots of other folks with
direct experience with other big fast drives that are (almost :-) as
good as CDC's, but it's lots of fun sorting out the choices!
--
--------------------
Ken Wallich            *My views are mine, and mine alone*
Consultant            "Slimey? Mud Hole? my HOME this is!"
DCI                 [e-mail]
@Hewlett Packard        ...hplabs!hpsmtc1!kwallich

"Why am I soft in the middle, when the rest of my life is so hard? - P.Simon"


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From: [e-mail] (benjamin Waldman)
Subject: Screen Dumping to a LaserWriter
Date: 30 Jan 88 20:10:13 GMT
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab Harvard, Cambridge, MA

An application I'm working on permits the user to perform a screendump
to the printer.  However, it only works on an ImageWriter.  This didn't
surprise me, since Apple's FKEY #4 doesn't work on the LaserWriter
either, and I presume we were both printing the same way - calling
PrCtlCall with the parameters that would cause a screen dump.

How can I screendump to the LW, then (in a way that would be compatible
with the IW as well)?

Would something like this work?  Open a printing port, and then do a
copybits from the screen's bitmap to the printing port's bitmap?

Any help, hints, and/or sample code (preferably LSC) would be greatly
appreciated.
            Thanks a lot,
            Ben Waldman
            [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Andrew S. Glassner)
Subject: Re: game review: Crystal Quest
Date: 30 Jan 88 20:32:20 GMT
Organization: University Of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

Gee, folks on this group are quick to respond!  Okay, two additional
points to the reivew of Crystal Quest I posted earlier:

 1) The game is copy-protected.  If you copy the disk using the Finder,
    when you start the game up it asks you to insert your master disk.

 2) When I said that I couldn't find anyone but MacWarehouse selling
    the game, this was in no way a negative statement about that firm.
    In fact their service was friendly and excellent.  I would have
    preferred to have given a list of sources for the game so folks
    could compare prices, etc.  I meant only to say that for this game,
    from the February MacUser ads, MacWarehouse is the only source.

-Andrew

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 ARPA:[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Drawing Programs: Recommendations Wanted
Date: 30 Jan 88 06:44:08 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

You're looking for the best drawing program for the Mac. Ability to read
PICT files is a must, and so is Postscript.

My recommendation is Illustrator 88 from Adobe. The new version has som
some nice features the original was lacking. Iw will read MacDraw-type
files, and acheive other nice effects. A runner up is Cricket Draw, but
I believe this is still too slow and PICT file/postscript file handling
is a little quirkish.

I vote Illustrator 88 the most powerful drawing program, and Canvas the
most versatile. In fact, Canvas comes with a desk  accessory version
that you can pull up in any program that needs graphics. It's like
adding a rotated text and bezier curve module to your favorite desktop
publishjing program.

There's my two cents.


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From: [e-mail] (T. Ozsu)
Subject: Pyro and Multifinder
Date: 27 Jan 88 16:52:29 GMT
Organization: U. of Alberta, Edmonton, AB


I am testing Pyro before I buy a copy (together with another program, of
course). Even though it is one of the nicest programs for screen idling,
I  can't get it to work properly with multifinder.

If I place the cursor at the "sleep now" corner, the screen will go
blank immediately. However, if I set the idling delay and leave the
machine alone, it does not idle at all. Furthermore, I just noticed that
if I open up the control panel and select Pyro and then let the machine
sit there, it WILL idle by itself. I suspect, I might be able to
discover more idiosyncratic behavior if I try.

Anybody knows the reasons for his funny behavior? Is Pyro incompatible
with multifinder? Or am I doing something wrong? ==Tamer Ozsu


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From: [e-mail] (;;;;YF37)
Subject: Re: Comments on Canvas requested
Date: 31 Jan 88 03:02:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

I've used Canvas for a while now, and I like it.  I've used it for
technical diagrams, mixing both bitmap and object-oriented pictures.  I
really like the variable expand/shrink feature that lets you work at any
expansion/shrinkage factor.  It does work on a Mac II and does support
the original 8 Macintosh colors.

I've use the macro capability a bit, only to save something I use alot.
I don't know about using them for graph axes, unless they are all the
same, or at least scaleable.

Canvas is not with problems, though.  Switching between object-oriented
and bitmap is a little tedious, and while working on a bitmap image, it
seems to switch back to object-oriented mode somewhat unpredictably.
The version I have (1.02, I think) has some bugs, but hopefully they'll
be fixed in the next version.
--
Edward Moy
Workstation Software Support Group
University of California
Berkeley, CA  94720

[e-mail]
ucbvax!violet!edmoy


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From: [e-mail] (Chang Woo)
Subject: Re: Tempo vs. Quickkey
Date: 30 Jan 88 16:42:46 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I've used both, and particularly happy with QuicKeys.  Tempo is strong
in one part. It is very nice in creating a macro since it has loops and
conditional branches, but the user interface is horrible. First, it
takes up about 5-6 DA slots. I had a chance of using that program before
Suitcase, so it was very intimidating. Also, Tempo cannot be moved using
Font/DA mover: you have to use "tempo installer" which comes with the
program. However, QuicKeys is very good product. It is in a form of
cdev/init which seems to be very popular nowadays; i.e., it sets itself
like init so whenever you turn on the computer, it turns itself on, and
also being a cdev, you have control over it using control panel. It uses
the new hierarchical menu inside Control Panel, so I don't think it is
compatible with old 64k ROM.  You can assign desk accessory, menu
choice, mouse movement, and lots of other things from it. It also has a
convenient date stamp. Since I use Apple Extended Keyboard, calling up
Disktop, etc. from function keys is pure pleasure. Nevertheless, there
are somethings I don't like from it. It cannot handle a complex macro
like Tempo can create, and it doesn't recognize the "reset" key in ADB
keyboard. Otherwise, it is a great product, and I can recommend it
fully.  One thing to mention, I used Tempo 1.1, but I heard there is a
new product called Tempo II. Since I haven't used it, I cannot tell how
good it is.

Hope it helps, Chang
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From: [e-mail] (-- Byron B. Han --)
Subject: Re: Lasershare:  Help!!
Date: 31 Jan 88 03:25:16 GMT
Organization: Communication Tools Group - Apple Computer, Inc.

The current shipping version of LaserShare only allows "capturing" a
single LaserWriter on the AppleTalk network.

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From: [e-mail] (Paul Larson)
Subject: The ROM serial driver
Date: 29 Jan 88 22:39:08 GMT
Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario


Has anyone else had trouble with the ROM serial driver? Is it
unreliable?  I need help.

    Johan Larson


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From: cca@pur-phy (Charles C. Allen)
Subject: Expressionist vs. MathType
Date: 31 Jan 88 03:43:55 GMT
Organization: Purdue Univ. Phys Dept, W.Lafayette, IN

It appears that there are people out there who have used both
Expressionist and MathType.  I currently use Expressionist, but am
interested in MathType.  Here's your big chance to convince me to spend
$150 on MathType (Expressionist can be had for $50).

Some of the things I'm interested in:

    *    How smart is it about recognizing standard functions when
    deciding to italicize things?

    *    Can it do TeX to equation as well as equation to TeX?

    *    How does the printed output compare to that generated by
    Expressionist and TeX?

Charlie Allen            [e-mail]

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